If you poured 10 buckets of water into a black hole, it could power the whole of Netherlands. But we can never touch them. Because anything that enter a black hole, never comes out. Heino Falcke, professor at Radboud University and a protestant pastor, shares how he imaged the first ever photo of a black hole. And reveals why science only strengthens his beliefs in divinity in a thrilling conversation with Shoma Chaudhury, Founder of Lucid Lines & Founder-Director, SYNAPSE